François-René Rideau ([info]fare) wrote,
@ 2005-02-07 23:51:00
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The Usual Relativist Fallacies

While in the States, I had an argument with, of all persons, a French man. He argued for relativism, that true and false do not matter, and might not exist at all, that every situation is unique, etc. Yeah sure! His example went that everytime he heard that same Opera was unique. And my reply was that everytime he'd have to listen to the noise of a jackhammer for two uninterrupted hours would be just as unique. He was an extreme example of what Ayn Rand called the anti-conceptual mentality.

Now, if the arguer was coping out of the debate, claiming that the whole discussion is irrelevant, that he doesn't want to waste time with things that have no meaning or purpose, then it would be a fair consistent stance. Not a very bright one, but at least not a performative contradiction. But the arguer was not using the argument to avoid the debate, he was using it to avoid having to justify his points. He was actually using this relativism in a very one-sided way: things do not matter, so that I, and those I support, can take resources from you, by force, so as to put things the way we want. Uh, yeah right. Double standard and petition of principle. The usual pair of fallacious ratiocinations used to conceal from untrained eyes a justification for brute force. Brute force, unbacked by any rational argument, but hidden under a veil of pseudo-rational argumentation.

Relativism is but the negation of Reason. In the absence of reason, the only tool to resolve human conflict is sheer brute force, the only thing that matters in society is alliances and enmities, force, treachery and fraud, in a general war of all against all. Relativism, subjectivism, is the anti-social philosophy that reduces social interaction to a dog-eat-dog struggle. In that world, the only stable organization that relavists can conceive is the totalitarian top-down hierarchy of command; and at the head of this hierarchy, the pseudo-intellectuals each fancy themselves, or at least people who would selflessly share their preferences.

Relativism is not just delusion. It is criminal delusion. And since it comes with enough cunning to be applied in a one-sided way, in the interest of the relativist and against those of his victims, it is actually a criminal fraud. When enough people understand that, invoking relativism to convince victims of accepting a transaction will be punishable as the fraud it is.



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Stable?
(Anonymous)
2005-02-09 07:09 am UTC (link)
If the relativist principle is applied totally, not even the totalitarian government is stable - be cause inside it there are struggles for the power, and outside it wanna-be totalitarians want it down so they can have things *their* way.

As Ayn Rand stated in Atlas Shrugged, when bandit principles rule, the power goes to the better bandit - and that changes regularly.

The very first "democracy" that Dark Ages knew is that, if the dictator (be he called king or grand priest or mamamuchi with green tail) made really too much ennemies, he ended up assassinated. Which was not less and not more democratic than our current regime really is : politician robbers are replaced by other politician robbers. The difference is that currently we avoid what happened in the past : without any certainty to stay in place more than one day, the new dictator unavoidably tightened the oppression to try to control people, which really helped another criminal to use people against him.

The reason why people individually have a rational interest to peace is that war is dangerous. When you wage war, you risk that your opponent wins. If he does, you loose everything (in a free society, you only loose what you wanted to take from him, so that there is no cycle of violence - this is a favor from the strong to the weak, because justice is only possible if honest people are stronger).

Politicians made their peace a few centuries ago. They decided that instead of killing each other, there would just be elections, and that every one of them would have a taste at power, and a grab at the loot. The reason why they did that is because they understood that they are dangerous. They respect each other the way criminals do - they know that "business" (as in the Godfather) is much better at times of peace, and that war is a chance for newcomers.

But they wouldn't make peace with honest people, because obviously they don't have any rational interest at it - they are unable to make even half as much as they can take. They don't have any rational interest at it - as long as the people they loot and enslave and sometimes kill are lambs to the slaughter, not dangerous a slightest bit.

The reason why I write that is that I want libertarians to understant - if we want politicians to make peace with us, we need to become dangerous. There are several ways to do that, but believe me - even greatly outnumbered, wolves won't stop eating sheep flesh just because they tell them so.

Jabial

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[info]jabial
2005-02-14 04:24 pm UTC (link)
I just wanted to authentify this comment (that I posted without logging in) and to says that I translated it for Chacun Pour Soi.

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